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Linda Greenlaw: Cowboy of the Sea

Linda Greenlaw

I shut the book and stared at the photos on the cover for a long while. Seaworthy by Linda Greenlaw. What was it about this woman’s face that penetrated through pulp and fiber like sunshine breaking through clouds? Something in the eyes maybe? Vibrant…Focused…Alive! Or perhaps it was the fully engaged smile. Persuasively charming, yet almost impish. Whatever it was, I’d just been consumed like bait on a hook by the ocean of fish that defines her world. And as only a great fisherman could do, she reeled me in with her stories of willingness,determination,  perseverance, and self discovery in good ‘ol fisherman fashion.
 
Standing 5'3" and 48 years old, there's no doubt about it...Linda Greenlaw has guts and vitality. For nearly 30 years she has been a fierce competitor in one of the most dangerous professions in America: commercial fishing. She has earned the respect of her peers, is one of the few female captains in the U.S. and is, in fact, the only female swordfish captain in the States to date.

In 1997, at the age of 35, Linda Greenlaw captured the attention and interest of the public when Sebastian Junger, author of The Perfect Storm  proclaimed her to be "one of the best sword boat captains, period, on the East Coast." In the movie, Linda is portrayed aboard her boat, the Hannah Boden, by Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio trying to warn her sister vessel,  the Andrea Gail, of the fast approaching storm that would end up taking the lives of all six men aboard the Andrea Gail.

Since then she has written four non-fiction books about her life and travels as a commercial fisherman, two mystery novels, and an awesome cookbook that she co-authored with her mom, Martha Greenlaw. She also stars on the new Discovery Channel series, Swords and is currently out touring to promote her latest non-fiction book Seaworthy: A Sword Boat Captain Returns To The Sea.

Seaworthy is a remarkable book that you don't have to be a fisherman to love. There is much to be said for Greenlaw's leadership skills, philosophies, and work ethics throughout her story. I would recommend this book to any manager in corporate America today. Seaworthy chronicles the events of Linda and her crew's amazing journey through the Grand Banks of Newfoundland aboard the Seahawk, a debacle in itself, searching for swordfish. Along the way you feel like a deckhand on board,  witnessing the everyday difficulties, challenges, and frustrations they must face and conquer. As she is cuffed and hauled away into Canadian custody, you are already plotting her grand escape...for she is the proverbial outlaw...she is the cowboy of the sea, Linda Greenlaw.

I was fortunate to spend some time with Linda trying to get inside her head and learn more about her and her life as a fisherman. Here's how our conversation went:


A Conversation with Linda Greenlaw:


 
 
ATNE: How would you describe yourself as a child growing up in Topsham, Maine?
 
LG: Major tomboy. I always liked to do boy things...things like sports, boating, fishing, and hunting with my Dad.
 
 
ATNE: How does an English and Government major wind up becoming a Commercial fisherman? Describe your love of the ocean and passion for fishing.
 
LG: Okay well I started out fishing as a summer job to pay my way through college. I fell in love with it and after I graduated I started fishing year round. It's difficult to articulate my love for the ocean...the best I can do is maybe talk about my first book The Hungry Ocean. It's from a Shakespearean title...the title is...but to me it refers to the oceans' ability to consume. I've been fishing since I was 19...I have been consumed by it. I like the way I feel when I'm at sea. I am passionate about catching fish and I'm very proud to say I'm a fisherman. 
 
 
ATNE: Describe a typical day at sea.
 
LG: A typical day at sea is that there is no typical day at sea. Every day is different. The weather is different. I guess the one thing the days have in common when we are fishing is that they are very long...you know Swordfishing is an endurance test...it's many days of sleep deprivation, hard physical work and not always eating right. You had better have a  love for what you are doing...you had better love the process, because most of the deal is the process.
 
 
ATNE: Having earned the respect of your peers and subordinates as a well established sea captain in a primarily male populated industry, what would you say are the makings of a great sea captain? What leadership skills must one possess?
 
LG: I think it migrates to my work ethic. I'm not faster, stronger or smarter than anyone else. My single asset is my ability to work hard and I've never been afraid to exploit that.I lead by example...you know I work hard and the crew falls right in with me. I have an attitude that I work with my crew.They do not work for me. I think that is one of my keys to success in leading guys.
 
 
ATNE: How has being a woman worked to your advantage and disadvantage?

LG: I don't think there are any disadvantages to being female. A lot of fisherman are kind of old school and they respect women, period. So that definitely is an advantage, you know, to work with gentleman who respect women and want to work hard to keep up with a woman...no self-respecting fisherman wants to be outworked by a woman...you know...so that's a pretty good thing.

 

ATNE: How do you measure your success compared to how the fishing industry measures success?

LG:  Well I've never measured my success by the pounds of fish we've landed. I've measured my success by the feeling of fulfillment that I get doing what I love. So it's definitely sort of a personal definition of success...it's not about financial success at all.

 

ATNE: Describe your relationship with the Sword.  

LG: Swordfish and I have been adversaries for a long time. I have a great respect for swordfish. They're elusive. They're the biggest challenge of anything I've fished for catch and they're pretty magnificent creatures...you know...they're a fish with a sword...like a unicorn, but they're real. They're strong swimmers. They're fast swimmers. They travel long distances.They seem to be really smart...so they are an exciting fish to catch.
 
 
ATNE: Tell us about your strangest experience at sea.
 
LG: The strangest...that's a very difficult question. We were hauling the line and it felt like I had a really big fish on the line...like whatever I had sunk the gear...it took a whole lot of time to get it to the surface...and when we did...it turned out to be the wing of an airplane.
 
 
ATNE: What was your most challenging experience at sea? 
 
LG: My experience of having to to deal with a dead body. One of my crew members had died aboard the boat and it was a real challenge just making decisions on what to do...do we do an at sea burial...do we keep him aboard the boat and go home...do we continue to fish...it was very emotionally challenging as well.
 
 
ATNE: What motivated you to head out to sea after a 10 year sabbatical?
 
LG: I never dreamed I wouldn't go back to swordfishing. I thought...next year, next season, next trip. The timing was never right. So two years ago when the phone rang it had been 10 years...I realized that the more time that marched on the less likely it was that I would get back to what I was still professing as my first love...so I knew I had better say yes and get on with it.
 
 
ATNE: While aboard the Seahawk, both you and your crew were faced with a barrage of technical difficulties, poor weather conditions as well as physical and emotional challenges…still, through  it all, each and every one of you persevered  with positive attitudes and teamwork. To what do you accredit this ?
 
LG: This particular crew was just so good at lightening up a really dark situation. They're very loyal to me and that makes a hell of difference aboard a boat when things aren't going well. For instance, when I was arrested, any one of my crew would have went to jail for me if they could have...you know, and they were very good at just keeping it light...you know...bad weather...poor fishing...and they were making jokes...not nearly as much whining and moaning and groaning as one would expect.
 
 
ATNE: What did you gain from your experience aboard the Seahawk? What did you learn about yourself? Any regrets?
 
LG: No, no regrets. I think the biggest thing I learned, not just in the trip, but also while writing Seaworthy, was that when I started out all I needed was a strong back and a weak mind. Those two things suited the job to a T for many years...well then I have a 10 year absence and am going back to this business at the age of 47...my back is not as strong, but I'd like to think my mind is stronger...so the question becomes: Do the things I've gained through maturity compensate for what has changed with youth? My answer to that is, "yes".
 
 
ATNE: Did you and the crew ever end up eating the 100 cans of sardines you brought aboard?
 
LG: Laughs No. I ate a handful of them and I don't think anyone else was joining me. The weather was sooo bad...It's pretty easy to open a can of sardines...but when you have a bunch of guys who aren't feeling so hot, a can of sardines is about the last thing they want to eat.
 
 
ATNE: In your book, there seems to be an ongoing, internal struggle between the life you lead at sea and your life on land. How are you adapting to living in both worlds.
 
LG: Pretty well. I've been able to sorta balance the two. I'm very fortunate that I can hop on a swordfishing boat and fish 3 months. I can fish for the best part of the season which is the Grand Banks season and be done with it...go home to my little island off the coast of Maine and work on a book.
 
 
ATNE: How has technology and  the way we catch fish changed since you first started in this industry nearly 30 years ago?

LG: Technology has certainly advanced. Satellite imagery and satellite communication...those are the two biggest assists that we get. It's really nice to hopefully have the ability to pick up the phone and actually really reach someone which I never had in the past. The one on the Seahawk didn't work particularly well, but that was a shitty phone.Satellite imaging for weather forecasting and finding where fish may be is way advanced from when I first started fishing.
 
 
ATNE: How have you changed?

LG: I'm more mature and have better coping skills. The younger Linda Greenlaw was much more excitable and hot headed. So those things have definitely changed.

 

ATNE: Is it true, you threw a cribbage board across the table at your opponent for criticizing your game? 

LG: Yeah, and, once a fire ax through the television screen. I was a real thrower. I didn't do any of that last year.

 

ATNE: What are your thoughts on the issues of the environment? Many are concerned about the decline in our shark population and the bycatch of sharks and turtles often associated with long line fishing?


LG: We're required by U.S. law to use circle hooks. That has really minimized the interaction with all types of bycatch. I have never killed a turtle in my life. Everything we catch with circle hooks is hooked in the corner of the mouth so every fish we catch is alive as opposed to the old fashioned jay hooks that we used to fish with that the fish would ingest and often be dead. Now the fish are alive when they come up ...you pop the hook out of the corner of the mouth and they swim away.
 
 
ATNE: On a lighter note, do all fisherman drink rum?
 
LG: Yeah most of them do, but I am partial to red wine.
 
 
ATNE: What do you enjoy most about living in Isle au Haut? What is it like living on a remote island ?
 
LG: What I enjoy most about it are the things I dislike most about it...the remoteness and sort of being in a world a part...I guess being very self reliant...self sufficient...all the things that are sort of like being on a fishing boat...but that remoteness and solitude are also the kind of things that get a little bit old sometimes and make it really nice to get off the island. I also really, really like the small community and I have a lot of family there so I like that too.
 
 
ATNE: Having co-authored a cookbook with your  Mom what would you say is your best dish?
 
LG: My best dish? Well, my mother's  is definitely her lobster casserole...my best dish is grilled swordfish with a fresh salsa.
 
 
ATNE: What is something you can’t live without while at sea ?
 
LG: Chapstick.
 
 
ATNE: What are your thoughts and concerns regarding modern day piracy? Is this something you fear?
 
LG:  Nope. I don't even give it a thought.
 
 
ATNE: Tell us about the new series Swords on the Discovery Channel. What was it like having a film crew aboard while trying to man your ship?
 
LG: At first it was a little intrusive getting used to having a camera in your face all the time and wearing a microphone unless you're sleeping or using the head...but we sort of got used to having them around and they got really good very quickly at knowing where not to be...so it ended up being just fine.
 
 
ATNE: You have also made a successful entrance into the publishing world with six books under your belt , including three non-fiction  best sellers about the commercial fishing industry.  What motivates and inspires you to write ?
 
LG: Hmm...I guess just being a good story teller...Before I wrote my first book I used to come in off the ocean and just sort of tell stories to my family. It was years of "you should write this down" and "you really ought to write a book". I never really intended to write until I was handed the opportunity after  being so generously mentioned in the Perfect Storm. So I guess what motivates me is the ability to document what I love and  having so many people enjoy what I write is also a big motivator.
 
 
ATNE: Do you have any current projects or plans you are working on now?
 
LG: I'm getting ready to go swordfishing again. I'm starting August 1st on the Hannah Boden if all goes right and the boat is ready. Another cookbook with my mother is due out next year. I have a non-fiction book to write...I guess I'll do that in the winter.
 

You can learn more about Linda Greenlaw by visiting her website at: http://www.lindagreenlawbooks.com

Books by Linda Greenlaw: Seaworthy, Fisherman's Bend,Slipknot,Recipes From A Very Small Island, All Fisherman Are Liars,The Hungry Ocean The Lobster Chronicles

 

Written By : Jessica Layne

 


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Comments (2)
2 Thursday, 12 August 2010 15:50
Watched Linda on Swords Tuesday night...those things are massive !!!
1 Monday, 19 July 2010 11:17
Great interview. I remember really admiring her character in the Perfect Storm and how I thought there probably aren't many women fishermen like her out there. Have to add this to my summer reading list - sounds like it'll be an interesting Read for when I'm on vacation at the ocean. Thanks.

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